Jonas experiences real pain for the first time. Because of this pain, Jonas tries to come up with alternatives for passing memories to the community. What kind of plan would you fork if you were Jonas? Give details.
I would suggest creating a hardisk, that would keep all the memories. If needed, they could have made simulation videos to explain what the word or situation means. This way, none should hold the pain of a whole world.
but the whole point of the book is that nobody knows pain, which means nobody knows the memories. if they would know, they would no longer have this type of community: people would want to choose their own decisions
i think, that instead of keeping the memories in one person, the whole council of elders should have the memories. another idea: just keep the memories on a harddisc, like Itay Chechik suggested. i think it's a great idea.
If I was Jonas I would fork that every child that gets to the age of 12 will get a small memory- a good one and if the kid behaved realy bad during his or hers life he or she will get a bad memory. A happy memory is a color or a vacation and a bad, sad memory is war hunger or pain.
If i was Jonas i would write down all of the bad memories, what can I learn from them and the wisdom they can give me and then pass the memories to the people the community releases such as babies with problems, old people etc. That way, Jonas and the giver wouldn't have to suffer from having all f the bad memories and the people that released will get them so the community would not get hurt either.
I would try and come up with a cretin computer like object that would store all of the painful memories instead of transmitting them to people therefore making receivers obsolete.
If I was Jonas I would take all the memories and read them in the speaker of the community, everybody will hear it and know it. Then I will change the rules like in the real world. Write a book about: how to behave with all the new rules when you know the memories.
If I was Jonas I would give the memories to The Committee Of Elders and pass some of the pain (and the other memories) to each one of the community (not including the newchildren) but most of the pain (and the other memories) would be at The Receiver and at The Committee Of Elders.
Nir Ofek My plan would be that all the memories of the community and the whole world will store in a big locked chest, so the memories could not be able to release (not like the last selection of the reciever, that the girl died and all the memories just gone). Me and the giver won't need to handle and keep inside all the pain and the thoughts and memories will be in a safe place.
If i were Jonas I would try to give my memories to the community in any way, even dying, because life is meaningless in sameness and if I won't sacrifice something it would be meaningless forever. My plan is that I would secretly give random memories to random people in every night.
If I was Jonas my plan would be to make films or write books of the memories, and keep them somewhere safe until they are needed. In this case, all the memories will be preserved and there will be no need for one poor person to carry all the pain of memories like war or breaking a leg.
If I would be Jonas I think I would like to transfer memories to other people because it's not fair that there is only one receiver and he is the only one who deals with all the pain in the world while all the other people never felt pain. The plan that I would form is passing memories to all of the new children. Because in making all the Community know the memories will be an impossible task but to give memories to all of the new children will be easier and also will create a whole generation that will have have all the memories and colors, they will pass it the their own children, and by that everyone in the future will know about all the memories and colors.
If I was Jonas, my plan will be to publish the memories to all of the world by giving it away like The Giver does, because its not fair that there is only one man that needs to deal with all the bad memories and the pain.
If I were Jonas I would create an internet cloud with all the memories inside and every one could choose a memory and learn/just watch it,even painfull memories...
If I was jonas the I would gather the community in the auditorium every three or four groups at a time and then ill do like a presentation where ill demonstrate those feeling of pain in some kind of simulation that the people could learn about those feelings without experience them on their bodies, and fill the pain
if i were jonas i would create kind of a computer that has a lot of memory space, then i would make a movie with all of the memories and then i will place it on the computer.
If I were jonas I would give each member of the community his ancestor's memories. Each male could have the male part of the ancestral memories and each female could have the female part of the ancestral memories. When you go to be released you would give up your memories to your "son/daughter" so no memories are released.
If I were jonas i would think that the best solution is to kill myself. i would think that I have to sacrifice for the team, that i would save everybody else.
If I were Jonas, I would do to The Community what the Giver did to me: I would give each person memories, starting with good ones and gradually getting to ones that hurt. Because the memories would be spread out on the whole society, each person would have a very small burden, instead of having one Receiver with a giant burden. Then The Community would be more similar to our world today, where each person has both good and bad memories.
If I was Jonas I would write the hurtfull memory in a notebook, after I finish writing the memory I would rip the paper with the memory from the notebook and bury it somewhere far from me and from the community. I would do this once a week if I was Jonas.
I do not know if giving all of the memories at once to everybody is such a good idea, since they (the people of the community) never felt such intense feelings, it might overwhelm them. If I were Jonas, I would be offering to give each one of the children at the ceremony of twelve a memory, each memory passes through generations within the family units and is given in the ceremony of twelve - a mother to her daughter, a father to his son.This way, it would not be too shocking or harmful, yet an organized tradition fitting to the community and its strictness.
I think that the best way to pass the memories to the community is putting them in some kind of a system that whenever someone wants to know something they just have to look for it in a computer. To avoid the passing of painful memories to kids, memories like war or starvation will be limited in age.
I would suggest creating a hardisk, that would keep all the memories. If needed, they could have made simulation videos to explain what the word or situation means. This way, none should hold the pain of a whole world.
ReplyDeleteI have a idea that all the community would know the memories that Jonas knows. First, they can watch a movie with a lot of parts, each for one memory.
ReplyDeletebut the whole point of the book is that nobody knows pain, which means nobody knows the memories. if they would know, they would no longer have this type of community: people would want to choose their own decisions
Deletei think, that instead of keeping the memories in one person, the whole council of elders should have the memories.
ReplyDeleteanother idea: just keep the memories on a harddisc, like Itay Chechik suggested. i think it's a great idea.
If I was Jonas I would fork that every child that gets to the age of 12 will get a small memory- a good one and if the kid behaved realy bad during his or hers life he or she will get a bad memory. A happy memory is a color or a vacation and a bad, sad memory is war hunger or pain.
ReplyDeleteIf i was Jonas i would write down all of the bad memories, what can I learn from them and the wisdom they can give me and then pass the memories to the people the community releases such as babies with problems, old people etc. That way, Jonas and the giver wouldn't have to suffer from having all f the bad memories and the people that released will get them so the community would not get hurt either.
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I would try and come up with a cretin computer like object that would store all of the painful memories instead of transmitting them to people therefore making receivers obsolete.
ReplyDeleteIf I was Jonas I would take all the memories and read them in the speaker of the community, everybody will hear it and know it. Then I will change the rules like in the real world. Write a book about: how to behave with all the new rules when you know the memories.
ReplyDeleteIf I was Jonas I would give the memories to The Committee Of Elders and pass some of the pain (and the other memories) to each one of the community (not including the newchildren) but most of the pain (and the other memories) would be at The Receiver and at The Committee Of Elders.
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ReplyDeleteMy plan would be that all the memories of the community and the whole world will store in a big locked chest, so the memories could not be able to release (not like the last selection of the reciever, that the girl died and all the memories just gone). Me and the giver won't need to handle and keep inside all the pain and the thoughts and memories will be in a safe place.
If i were Jonas I would try to give my memories to the community in any way, even dying, because life is meaningless in sameness and if I won't sacrifice something it would be meaningless forever. My plan is that I would secretly give random memories to random people in every night.
ReplyDeleteIf I was Jonas my plan would be to make films or write books of the memories, and keep them somewhere safe until they are needed. In this case, all the memories will be preserved and there will be no need for one poor person to carry all the pain of memories like war or breaking a leg.
ReplyDeleteIf I would be Jonas I think I would like to transfer memories to other people because it's not fair that there is only one receiver and he is the only one who deals with all the pain in the world while all the other people never felt pain. The plan that I would form is passing memories to all of the new children. Because in making all the Community know the memories will be an impossible task but to give memories to all of the new children will be easier and also will create a whole generation that will have have all the memories and colors, they will pass it the their own children, and by that everyone in the future will know about all the memories and colors.
ReplyDeleteIf I was Jonas, my plan will be to publish the memories to all of the world by giving it away like The Giver does, because its not fair that there is only one man that needs to deal with all the bad memories and the pain.
ReplyDeleteIf I were Jonas I would create an internet cloud with all the memories inside and every one could choose a memory and learn/just watch it,even painfull memories...
ReplyDeleteIf I was jonas the I would gather the community in the auditorium every three or four groups at a time and then ill do like a presentation where ill demonstrate those feeling of pain in some kind of simulation that the people could learn about those feelings without experience them on their bodies, and fill the pain
ReplyDeleteif i were jonas i would create kind of a computer that has a lot of memory space, then i would make a movie with all of the memories and then i will place it on the computer.
ReplyDeleteIf I were jonas I would give each member of the community his ancestor's memories.
ReplyDeleteEach male could have the male part of the ancestral memories and each female could have the female part of the ancestral memories.
When you go to be released you would give up your memories to your "son/daughter" so no memories are released.
If I were jonas i would think that the best solution is to kill myself. i would think that I have to sacrifice for the team, that i would save everybody else.
ReplyDeleteIf I were Jonas, I would do to The Community what the Giver did to me: I would give each person memories, starting with good ones and gradually getting to ones that hurt. Because the memories would be spread out on the whole society, each person would have a very small burden, instead of having one Receiver with a giant burden. Then The Community would be more similar to our world today, where each person has both good and bad memories.
ReplyDeleteIf I was Jonas I would write the hurtfull memory in a notebook, after I finish writing the memory I would rip the paper with the memory from the notebook and bury it somewhere far from me and from the community.
ReplyDeleteI would do this once a week if I was Jonas.
I do not know if giving all of the memories at once to everybody is such a good idea, since they (the people of the community) never felt such intense feelings, it might overwhelm them. If I were Jonas, I would be offering to give each one of the children at the ceremony of twelve a memory, each memory passes through generations within the family units and is given in the ceremony of twelve - a mother to her daughter, a father to his son.This way, it would not be too shocking or harmful, yet an organized tradition fitting to the community and its strictness.
ReplyDeleteI think that the best way to pass the memories to the community is putting them in some kind of a system that whenever someone wants to know something they just have to look for it in a computer. To avoid the passing of painful memories to kids, memories like war or starvation will be limited in age.
ReplyDelete